Nightfall Missions - Guild Wars Forums

Avant Garde · Feb 27, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03

Are these missions do-able with heroes and hench? I mean like all of the missions or just X amount of missions? Reason for asking is that my laptop can't handle the graphics too well and lag most of the time, but i want to finish most of the game as much as i can on my own before I buy a laptop dell xps. If I can do these missions with heroes and hench only it would be cool. Because I'd prefer to do that than risk a group's chances because I lag and aggro some mobs.

quickmonty · Feb 27, 2008, 11:05 PM // 23:05

Yes, they are do-able, but that doesn't mean they are easy to H/H.

pygar · Feb 27, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

The majority (maybe even all) of Nightfall missions in normal mode can be done with Heroes and Henchies (even achieving master reward on some of the missions), many of them can be H/H'd in Hard Mode too. (but for HM you'l need to be flawless with them)

If you know what you are doing with Heroes and Henchies you actually have an advantage over human player teams in that your team will have more "discipline" than most human teams for staying together as a group (they will run off when u dont want if your not careful, but humans are way worse about it) and focusing on the "called" target (Heroes and Henchies target your target without being told 90% of the time)

I just finished Nightfall last week, and have just vanquished my first 2 HM zones in the last couple days, all with Heroes and Henchies.... I hate PUGs and have nothing good to say about playing with other human players. (actually one good thing about the 2 or 3 times I have joined a PUG, is failing the mission with a PUG showed me exactly how to beat that mission with a H&H team on my next try- so I guess they are good for something)

U Wanna Die · Feb 27, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

You can do most, but you need to search the right builds on Wiki because if not it may not work. Some you will have trouble with.

Miska Bow · Feb 27, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24

Did all of them with H/H the one that got me the most trouble getting master was Grand Court of Sebelkeh.

Read the mission page on wiki before going in and adjust your build and your heroe's builds accordingly.

I'm a ranger and use a MM, a SS and and anti caster mesmer with 2 ele and 2 monk henchies. It gets me through most of the missions without major build changes.
You could also try the Sabway trio.(Search is your friend)

Most of the time i just leech on my H/H.

HawkofStorms · Feb 27, 2008, 11:27 PM // 23:27

I've done it.
Masters might be difficult on a few, and HM is almost impossible, but it is doable.

The ONLY one that is a real pain without playing with other people is Jennur's Hoarde, since you need to carry bundle items (the only thing that can hurt the bosses in that level) and h/h can't do that. God I wish A.net would update heroes so they can carry bundles.

StormDragonZ · Feb 27, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Key:
[1] Can do with H/H but not get Masters.
[2] Cannot do with H/H period.

Dzagonur Bastion [1]*
Grand Court of Selkebeh [1]
Gate of Madness [2]
Gate of Pain [1]
Ruins of Morah [2]
Jennur's Horde [1]*

*Note: Only once have I managed to get Masters on that mission with H/H.

pygar · Feb 27, 2008, 11:34 PM // 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

Key:
[1] Can do with H/H but not get Masters.
[2] Cannot do with H/H period.

Dzagonur Bastion [1]*
Grand Court of Selkebeh [1]
Gate of Madness [2]
Gate of Pain [1]
Ruins of Morah [2]
Jennur's Horde [1]*

*Note: Only once have I managed to get Masters on that mission with H/H.

I used H/H for Gate of Madness and for ruins of Morah in normal mode (the final battle vs. Varesh right?) and got masters for both....but thats normal mode, havent tried those two in hard yet.

Avant Garde · Feb 27, 2008, 11:43 PM // 23:43

thanks guys. now, does your profession play a big role in it? could an e/m and her h/h be able to do it easier than say p/w + h/h. gah, it probably depends on the mission but i'd like to make sure with you guys.

quickmonty · Feb 27, 2008, 11:47 PM // 23:47

One nice thing about heroes (and henchies) is that you can build your team around your own profession. If, for example, you are an ele you might be less inclined to take an ele hero.

And, yes .... a lot depends on the mission.

pygar · Feb 27, 2008, 11:51 PM // 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avant Garde

thanks guys. now, does your profession play a big role in it? could an e/m and her h/h be able to do it easier than say p/w + h/h. gah, it probably depends on the mission but i'd like to make sure with you guys.

Your profession should only affect what heroes and henchies you bring with you. (the mission you are on might matter more, but myself, I bring almost the exact same team every time) If you are an E/ then heroes that can be frontline fighters for you will probably be the ticket...if you are P/ then your skills as a paragon will "turbocharge" almost any hero or henchie you bring with and you can strive for balance amongst your team. You will just have to expiriment some to figure out what will really be best for you.

Avant Garde · Feb 27, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56

alright thanks all!

joshuarodger · Feb 28, 2008, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

Key:
[1] Can do with H/H but not get Masters.
[2] Cannot do with H/H period.

Dzagonur Bastion [1]*
Grand Court of Selkebeh [1]
Gate of Madness [2]
Gate of Pain [1]
Ruins of Morah [2]
Jennur's Horde [1]*

*Note: Only once have I managed to get Masters on that mission with H/H.

i don't know i thought jennur's horde was fairly easy in NM with H/H. It was a pain in the ass and took a long time but it wasn't hard. you just go kill a few of the monsters at the top of the stairs come back to bottom and wait for margo spawn, kill them then go kill a few more monsters. you need a MM to delay the monsters at top of stairs while you run to the bottom to wait for the margo spawn though. i only killed 2 of the regular harbingers when i did it though. made the spawns much easier to handle. i pretty much agree with the rest of your mission analyses though.

kazjun · Feb 28, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16

You can get masters fairly easy on normal mode with just heroes and henchies. The only one I had some trouble with was Jennurs, but read up some strats on wiki and got it fairly easily after that, though It took awhile.

Oh, and I think it was moddock crevice mission. You can do pretty much all NF with any build, but you may need to bring a speed boost or snare to catch the runners in that mission to get masters.

Feb 27, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03	#1
Avant Garde Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2008	Nightfall Missions Are these missions do-able with heroes and hench? I mean like all of the missions or just X amount of missions? Reason for asking is that my laptop can't handle the graphics too well and lag most of the time, but i want to finish most of the game as much as i can on my own before I buy a laptop dell xps. If I can do these missions with heroes and hench only it would be cool. Because I'd prefer to do that than risk a group's chances because I lag and aggro some mobs.

Feb 27, 2008, 11:05 PM // 23:05	#2
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	Yes, they are do-able, but that doesn't mean they are easy to H/H. Last edited by quickmonty; Feb 27, 2008 at 11:29 PM // 23:29..

Feb 27, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10	#3
pygar Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2007 Guild: KORM Profession: R/Mo	The majority (maybe even all) of Nightfall missions in normal mode can be done with Heroes and Henchies (even achieving master reward on some of the missions), many of them can be H/H'd in Hard Mode too. (but for HM you'l need to be flawless with them) If you know what you are doing with Heroes and Henchies you actually have an advantage over human player teams in that your team will have more "discipline" than most human teams for staying together as a group (they will run off when u dont want if your not careful, but humans are way worse about it) and focusing on the "called" target (Heroes and Henchies target your target without being told 90% of the time) I just finished Nightfall last week, and have just vanquished my first 2 HM zones in the last couple days, all with Heroes and Henchies.... I hate PUGs and have nothing good to say about playing with other human players. (actually one good thing about the 2 or 3 times I have joined a PUG, is failing the mission with a PUG showed me exactly how to beat that mission with a H&H team on my next try- so I guess they are good for something) Last edited by pygar; Feb 27, 2008 at 11:27 PM // 23:27..

Feb 27, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10	#4
U Wanna Die Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2007 Profession: W/Mo	You can do most, but you need to search the right builds on Wiki because if not it may not work. Some you will have trouble with.

Feb 27, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24	#5
Miska Bow Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: somewhere, Grinding some l33t titles Guild: Order of the Divine WoodChuck Profession: R/	Did all of them with H/H the one that got me the most trouble getting master was Grand Court of Sebelkeh. Read the mission page on wiki before going in and adjust your build and your heroe's builds accordingly. I'm a ranger and use a MM, a SS and and anti caster mesmer with 2 ele and 2 monk henchies. It gets me through most of the missions without major build changes. You could also try the Sabway trio.(Search is your friend) Most of the time i just leech on my H/H.

Feb 27, 2008, 11:27 PM // 23:27	#6
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	I've done it. Masters might be difficult on a few, and HM is almost impossible, but it is doable. The ONLY one that is a real pain without playing with other people is Jennur's Hoarde, since you need to carry bundle items (the only thing that can hurt the bosses in that level) and h/h can't do that. God I wish A.net would update heroes so they can carry bundles.

Feb 27, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28	#7
StormDragonZ Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York Profession: W/R	Key: [1] Can do with H/H but not get Masters. [2] Cannot do with H/H period. Dzagonur Bastion [1]* Grand Court of Selkebeh [1] Gate of Madness [2] Gate of Pain [1] Ruins of Morah [2] Jennur's Horde [1]* *Note: Only once have I managed to get Masters on that mission with H/H.

Feb 27, 2008, 11:43 PM // 23:43	#9
Avant Garde Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2008	thanks guys. now, does your profession play a big role in it? could an e/m and her h/h be able to do it easier than say p/w + h/h. gah, it probably depends on the mission but i'd like to make sure with you guys.

Feb 27, 2008, 11:47 PM // 23:47	#10
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	One nice thing about heroes (and henchies) is that you can build your team around your own profession. If, for example, you are an ele you might be less inclined to take an ele hero. And, yes .... a lot depends on the mission.

Feb 27, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56	#12
Avant Garde Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2008	alright thanks all!

Feb 28, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16	#14
kazjun Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: HoVa Profession: W/N	You can get masters fairly easy on normal mode with just heroes and henchies. The only one I had some trouble with was Jennurs, but read up some strats on wiki and got it fairly easily after that, though It took awhile. Oh, and I think it was moddock crevice mission. You can do pretty much all NF with any build, but you may need to bring a speed boost or snare to catch the runners in that mission to get masters.